Posts by Anders Andersen

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Meanwhile over at exjw reddit

by nowwhat? in

it has no value at all.

it consists of 99% dumb, confused kids asking stupid hypothetical questions.

Anders Andersen

But as far as them being ‘free from polarizing politics’, you’re wrong.

I didn't say the exjw Reddit is free of that. It's just that half the posts here seem to be about politics and quite polarizing, and on Reddit most post have to do with something JW. The mix of topics is quite different between here and there.

As far as ‘dishonest’ topics on politics 🙄: it depends on your viewpoint!

I'm not talking about whether or not I agree with someone's viewpoint or not. I prefer exposing myself to different points of view, so I can learn. Polite conversation can be enlightening, even if parties don't agree on what the facts are.
But having lived through Watchtower lies, quotes out of context or without any source reference, I have learned to spot the overly wild claims based on soundbites ripped out of context, or wild speculation based on rumor to incite excitement for a cause. And it seems to me those seem to pop up around quite often....

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Meanwhile over at exjw reddit

by nowwhat? in

it has no value at all.

it consists of 99% dumb, confused kids asking stupid hypothetical questions.

Anders Andersen

Tbh I prefer the exjw Reddit over this forum, mainly because of the many polarizing (and imho often unreasonable or even dishonest) topics on politics around here.

I find it easier to ignore a teenagers' dumb but somewhat funny memes than to ignore adults ranting about how 'the evil others' of whatever side are going to destroy the USA....

The exjw reddit serves a lot of struggling people, especially the younger crowd. I think in terms of number of people finding support the exjw Reddit today helps more people than this forum (not that it's a contest).

And I can also see how the memes might be annoying enough to not like exjw reddit :-)

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California passes bill lessening penalty for pedophiles having sex with willing kids.

by mickbobcat in

i was wondering about this.

if california or other far left groups in charge would push for making pedophiles quote normal unquote.

so it passed but has yet to be signed by newsom.

Anders Andersen

Exactly. It's a trick to make creeping legislation easier

If anyone wanted, they could have simply changed the definition of 'minor' without first changing this bill. The change that was now passed has absolutely no effect on a 'possible' (lol) change of the definition of 'minor'.

Because a threshold for the age limit could easily have been added. The fact that it wasn't is deliberate.

Of course it was. It is much more efficient for both reading and maintaining laws and bills when common terms are defined in one place, instead of in every single bill (or sentence) where the term is used.

you retreat to convenient example of a 17 + 18 year old couple which no one that I'm aware of has any real concern over

How would you propose to write a bill that mirrors the situation of a 17+18 year old couple that 'nobody has any real concern over', and still is strict enough for your liking?

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Alright Mr. Bond!--There Are Documents to Deliver!--(as of 2020-09-03)

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

well mr. bond!.

i see your staying..... .

on top of things!.

Anders Andersen

Thanks!

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California passes bill lessening penalty for pedophiles having sex with willing kids.

by mickbobcat in

i was wondering about this.

if california or other far left groups in charge would push for making pedophiles quote normal unquote.

so it passed but has yet to be signed by newsom.

Anders Andersen

@Earnest,

Don't be so reasonable. Who needs the actual source if there is Breitbart?

We just want unfounded claims to vilify 'the others'.

/s

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Dutch JW publish open letter protesting accusations of mishandling child abuse and government inquiry

by Anders Andersen in

today watchtower netherlands published an open letter in a national newspaper, lamenting the accusations about them not handling child abuse issues very well.. they protest a scientific report made by utrecht university (by request of the government).. they protest almost everything our minister of justice has said about them.. they place themselves in the role of victims of unfair treatment, discrimination.. they point their finger a other religions (foremost the catholic church) because they are much worse.. they refer to jw being persecuted in wwii, as if that were relevant to the issue at hand.. all in all, they (probably) spent about 25k to 30k euro to publish their bullshit in a national newspaper.. not a single trace of any self-awareness, let alone even a hint of an apology.

quite the contrary.. they suck.. the minister of justice tweeted "this is exactly the problem: they spend money on lawsuits and expensive ads instead of improving help for victims #fail".. see the translation of the jw letter here: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ilair1/open_dutch_letter_a_little_better_english.

Anders Andersen

@menrov,

They published their one page paid ad/letter in the paper Telegraaf only. I couldn't find it on the Telegraaf website.

Afaik only regional radio/tv stations RTV Drenthe and RTV Noord reported on the letter.

So it appears the national news media aren't very much impressed by JW's tantrum.

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Dutch JW publish open letter protesting accusations of mishandling child abuse and government inquiry

by Anders Andersen in

today watchtower netherlands published an open letter in a national newspaper, lamenting the accusations about them not handling child abuse issues very well.. they protest a scientific report made by utrecht university (by request of the government).. they protest almost everything our minister of justice has said about them.. they place themselves in the role of victims of unfair treatment, discrimination.. they point their finger a other religions (foremost the catholic church) because they are much worse.. they refer to jw being persecuted in wwii, as if that were relevant to the issue at hand.. all in all, they (probably) spent about 25k to 30k euro to publish their bullshit in a national newspaper.. not a single trace of any self-awareness, let alone even a hint of an apology.

quite the contrary.. they suck.. the minister of justice tweeted "this is exactly the problem: they spend money on lawsuits and expensive ads instead of improving help for victims #fail".. see the translation of the jw letter here: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ilair1/open_dutch_letter_a_little_better_english.

Anders Andersen

Today Watchtower Netherlands published an open letter in a national newspaper, lamenting the accusations about them not handling child abuse issues very well.

They protest a scientific report made by Utrecht University (by request of the government).

They protest almost everything our Minister of Justice has said about them.

They place themselves in the role of victims of unfair treatment, discrimination.

They point their finger a other religions (foremost the Catholic Church) because they are much worse.

They refer to JW being persecuted in WWII, as if that were relevant to the issue at hand.

All in all, they (probably) spent about 25k to 30k Euro to publish their bullshit in a national newspaper.

Not a single trace of any self-awareness, let alone even a hint of an apology. Quite the contrary.

They suck.

The Minister of Justice tweeted "this is exactly the problem: they spend money on lawsuits and expensive ads instead of improving help for victims #fail".

See the translation of the JW letter here: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ilair1/open_dutch_letter_a_little_better_english

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2020-08-25 Food Distribution Program! (as of 2020-08-26)

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

2020-08-25 food distribution program.

those on the email list have already received this letter.

if you would like a copy, reply below and i'll meet you at your pm box with a link.petra!.

Anders Andersen

...we know that the structure of this world will continue to crumble.

Jehovah’s organization has provided practical physical assistance with a Food Distribution Program.

"I, Moses, will provide water for you from this rock"

And who exactly makes Jehovah's Food Program possible? Right, this crumbling world.

Their willful ignorance and hypocrisy is beyond compare.

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Final talk of the 2020 'Always Rejoice' Convention

by Listener in

this is part of splane's lecture in the final part of the final day of the 2020 convention.

now speaking of broadcasting.

do you think jehovah has been preparing us for something like this pandemic?

Anders Andersen

And here's another thing, when the theme for this convention was being chosen, there was no Coronovirus on the horizon. Yet, can you think of a better theme for a convention than this one? Joy. What an appropriate theme for a convention...

Hahaha such a funny guy. The whole convention utterly ignores current events. Apparently they only updated the last talk to include a reference to corona?

If anything this convention and all current literature show how little foresight JW and their imaginary friend Jehovah have...

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Dissenting Virologist Part 2

by Wakanda in

people with ad hominem attacks can eff off.. npr articles, etc.

with no references are not proof of anything.

look up the studies and don't just read the abstract people.

Anders Andersen

Could it be that the dissenting virogolist is mistaken (or worse, using unreliable methods, too biased, or outright dishonest)?

What can we do to figure that out?

What would it take for you to conclude the dissenting virologist is wrong?